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49 KB Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:40 No.16048281  
In Ocarina of Time, is it possible to do the temples out of order?

All I want to do is the Fire Temple and the Shadow Temple. All the other temples can go fuck themselves.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:42 No.16048331
Why did Gannondorf get curls?
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:43 No.16048366
fire/water you can do in a different order
shadow/spirit you can do in a different order

i think that's it?

go play OoT Master Quest instead.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:44 No.16048387
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Because they're more...menacing? I don't know. I think it looks stupid.

I mean, how the hell does he put this contraption on? And how does he take it off to go to sleep and stuff?
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:44 No.16048397

Evil never sleeps.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:45 No.16048408
You can do them out of order, but it's common sense that Forest Temple always comes before Shadow and Spirit Temple.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:45 No.16048410
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:46 No.16048442
I want a game where I can play as Ganondorf
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:48 No.16048462
You kidding?

He lives in a civilization full of WOMEN-- they're probably nonstop braiding his hair, unbraiding it, weaving it; he's probably just keeping it in so they don't say "Awww, GANONDORF!! Why'd you take it out?!"
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:48 No.16048464
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:48 No.16048466
smash bros
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:48 No.16048476
I guess they decided he didn't look regal enough or some shit.... might as well have gone and slapped one of those curly british wigs on him while they were at it.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:48 No.16048484
confirmed for BRAWL
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:48 No.16048485
omg this actually makes sense
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:50 No.16048510
>but it's common sense that Forest Temple always comes before Shadow and Spirit Temple.
perhaps that, and also that you need the fucking bow and longshot before you can enter them, let alone complete them
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:51 No.16048538
I meant a Zelda game damnit.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:52 No.16048550

They nagged him to death. Gotcha.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:54 No.16048602

I thought you wanted to play a Ganondorf game, not a Zelda game.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:54 No.16048614

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Ganondorf must have had a really shitty childhood, looking back on it now.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:56 No.16048664
are you serious? that's why it's obvious, you fat titbag
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:56 No.16048679
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Best post on /v/ all day.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:56 No.16048683
The Legend of Ganondorf.... man I would love for them to take this series in a different direction with something like this.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:56 No.16048686
Hence the evil.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:58 No.16048747
To be fair, this Ganondorf is literally the same as the OoT one, so these curls would have to come sometime after his first imprisonment by Link/Zelda but before the other imprisonment by the next line of Sages.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)03:59 No.16048762
I don't know why, but the Legend of Ganondorf would seem so much better if it was like a FF-esque RPG.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:00 No.16048787
Malarky. I know a few early years would have sucked but after that it's just him and an entire civilization of women who need him for their children.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:00 No.16048797
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Who the hell knows what Ganondorf does inbetween being sealed away?

I mean, look at Wind Waker. He got fucking fat. He became a fat ass.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:01 No.16048826
Screw that. I'd see it as more of a Fable-esque combat system, with Overlord type control over your minions.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:01 No.16048841
Shut the fuck up. He looks awesome in that pic. And he's not fat, just deceptively muscular.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:02 No.16048854

Yeah, life for Ganon probably sucked...until he hit puberty and realized OH GOD I'M SURROUNDED BY DELICIOUS BROWN WOMEN
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:02 No.16048858
To be fair, he's a fatass, and that's hundreds of years of WATERWORLD.
Not much else to do but eat.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:02 No.16048860
To be fair, he's a pig, and that's hundreds of years of WATERWORLD.
Not much else to do but eat.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:02 No.16048862

Someone needs to redline this to show what he looks like under that big ass robe.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:02 No.16048863
You can skip the Forest Temple entirely and do the Fire Temple, providing you have the Hookshot. I tried to do the Water Temple as well, but there are two place were you NEED the bow. You can still beat Morpha before Phantom Ganon though.
I don't whether beating the first three Temples or just beating the Water Temple triggers the event which lets you enter the Shadow Temple, but you need to have beaten the Forest Temple to enter the Bottom of the Well and obtain the Lens of Truth.
You need the Longshot and the Lens of Truth to enter the Spirit Temple, and items from just about every other dungeon (including the Hover Boots) to beat it.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:02 No.16048869
All of you are wrong. I want to see Ganondorf's entire life encapsulated in a single game. Was he originally good?
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:03 No.16048883

Fuck no, he's Ganondorf. He's always been greedy and cruel.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:05 No.16048911
and thats when they sent him out into the world and told him to come back with something that would prove his worth
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:05 No.16048915
Unlike Link and Zelda, Ganondorf is never reincarnated between games and is always the same character.
Seriously, he should have got it in his thick head that it's the guy in the green outfit you go after first, not the useless chick whose kidnapping never benefits you anyway.

There's a period of time where the Triforce of Courage is actually SEALED AWAY and Link doesn't have it. That's a time period where Ganondorf can have his game that he spends hunting down Link before Link starts up the heroic business.
Alternately, it can be a game where you finally use Zelda and save Link.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:05 No.16048919
Pretty one-dimensional villain then, I suppose.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:06 No.16048930
I always beat the Spirit Temple before coming anywhere near the Shadow Temple. As for the lense of truth, I only really needed to use it to getting through the desert.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:06 No.16048938

Ever played Wind Waker?
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:06 No.16048943
He was raised by evil witches and had no guy friends.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:07 No.16048954
he seemed pretty depressed in that game.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:07 No.16048955
Beat it. Loved it. Favorite game of all time actually.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:07 No.16048961
he's not fat, he finally got smart enough to wear, under his robes, armour that is deeper than the length of the master sword...

of course he forgot to armour his head
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:07 No.16048965
Ganondorf has always been a one-dimensional evil villian. Except for Wind Waker, but they've only added a little twist than a total character restructure.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:07 No.16048966
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This thread is making me so goddamn happy and I'm not sure why.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:07 No.16048969
There's no way someone as evil as Ganon ever went through that "good guy somehow became bad due to the terrible nature of the world" bullshit.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:07 No.16048974
...sadly, the "Zelda saves Link" concept has already been done.

...for bringing up such horrors, YOU MUST DIE!
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:08 No.16048987

>of course he forgot to armour his head

I lol'd
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:08 No.16048988

Or maybe Gannon just doesn't care that he's beaten in the end?

He understands that destiny, fate, and all that shit is against him. And besides, every time he revives, he's gurenteed to at least be able to wreck shit up for awhile. I can imagine Gannon fully knowing Link will win, but going out and enjoying himself while he can. And then when Link wins, Gannon just shrugs to himself and thinks "Eh, it was a good run. Besides, I always come back. Hey Link, enjoy your now completely ruined country! Hah!"

Just imagine his life. Be born, live in the tribe of delicious brown women for awhile, probably having massive amounts of awesome sex. Go out into the world and just wreck the shit out of things for the fun of it. Then once there's pretty much nothing left for you to wreck, some pansy in green stabs you and builds it all up - just so you can come back and break it all over again!

Gannon's living the fucking dream.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:08 No.16048991

This is what happens when you grow up without a father figure and raised by women.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:08 No.16048995
WW Ganondorf was sorta good.
He just wanted to restore Hyrule, a prosperous land with land as far as the eye can see. He'd been living in what the King created, a bleak, nearly empty world of forgotten islands and little advancement in any area.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:09 No.16049028
Until Link finally blows him up in the Legend of Zelda, that is.
Poor Ganon.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:10 No.16049059
I'm pretty sure there's a silver rupee in the room with the boulders which can't be reached without the Hover Boots, and I think you need them to reach the statue's hand in the main room.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:11 No.16049084
Surely i'm not the only one who fantasies about being plowed by Ganon's humongous dick.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:12 No.16049089
Well ruling over oceans is not the same thing as ruling over land...
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:12 No.16049098

I wonder how Ganondorf got to be so manly without being around any men at any given time.

You'd think he'd be a prancing fag the way he grew up.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:12 No.16049102
I'd like to think that Ganondorf started out as an good scholar of sorts. He is proud of his people, and is determined to bring them a Golden Age. He visits Hyrule, because he realizes the importance of diplomacy (This is is his teenage years, I suppose, way before OoT). He visits, and is amazed by how advanced their civilzation is in comparison to the Gerudo. He is determined to learn everything he can about Hylian magic and technology and bring it back. But then he hears whispers and rumors about himself and the Gerudo people in general. He hears the Hylians think of the Gerudo as savages who are nothing more than thieves. His disillisuionment is finally shattered when he realizes that the King of Hyrule himself, already a very iffy king who Ganondorf is superior to, already hods a grudge against Ganon, and tries to limit his ability to bring technology back to Gerudo. Ganondorf becomes bitter to the Hylians, jealous of their Goddess granted magic and fertile lands, and resolves that he will try to attain the highest artifact of magic - the triforce. With a wish, he could reverse the situation, bring a renaissance to the Gerudo people, and show the hylian people their greed and vanity. He returns, looking up every legend of the triforce, driving himself mad with the quest. He's willing to cripple the Gorons and the Zoras by starving them of their mines and rivers, if it means that he will get a piece of the triforce. He starts a civil war with hyrule, with Zora, Gorons, Hylians, and Gerudo all fighting each other, just for the Triforce (Which has become vastly more interesting after the King of the Gerudo uncovers the legends about it) During this war for the Triforce, a pregnant hylian women runs from the war, to a village of child-like people names Kokiri....
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:12 No.16049111
next zelda, you start out as a late teen in green in a small village. blah blah blah, you get told that you have to save the world from some evil and you end up going to see zelda.

Shit hits the fan when you realise that she has the triforce of wisdom and the evil will happen when they are all united, so you take zelda away.

then holy shit, there's this other guy out there trying to get zelda, you have to stop him.
then in obvious twist,
'i have to stop the triforce of power'
'no link you have the triforce of power'
then link was the gannondorf.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:12 No.16049112

Been having those fantasies for a coupla years, mate, you're not the only one.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:13 No.16049122
The head can be reached with the longshot. As for the rupee, I think there was a way to hop to all of them, though I don't really remember.
Guess I'll play through OoT tomorrow.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:13 No.16049148
seen the females of his race? they're fucking hardcore bitches
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:14 No.16049151
I agree to an extent. This has been done plenty of times before. But I wouldn't mind if he was, at some point, not corrupted. A villain does require some motive aside from some instinctual evil. I don't see why Ganondorf cannot have a deeper personality, since it's Nintendo's central story-based franchise. For instance, perhaps he was not always evil, but the moral dogma of his superiors eventually disillusioned him to the true nature of morality. Even sociopaths need some gray area.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:15 No.16049169
Well the Gerudo weren't exactly the weak feminine type, they lived in a fucking desert and were warriors. I guess without any men around women can't afford to behave like little bitches
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:16 No.16049218
oh god yes
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:17 No.16049234
>Sure, you can have sex with me...AFTER you move this giant boulder. By hand. Across Hyrule Field.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:17 No.16049240
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if gannon is to ever be given a voice actor, or movie actor, it must be Michael Dorn
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:17 No.16049250

Based on Wind Waker, it's probably hard to tell who exactly is going to be Link in the world. He could be any kid from anywhere, and there's nothing that seems to identify him apart from any other kid until he starts his adventuring.

Meanwhile Zelda has that triforce and whatnot, and knows shit, and is part of the royal family who are super important. It's entirely possible that Zelda rarely seems to be a real thread BECAUSE Ganon focuses his efforts on her, crippling her ability to stand against him.

I dunno.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:17 No.16049260
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>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:18 No.16049276
Fucking lol'd.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:18 No.16049288

While we're on the subject, I liked his voice actor he had in Ocarina/Wind Waker/SSBM just fine. Why did they change him for TP/Brawl?

It just doesn't sound like him anymore. Every sound he makes makes him sound like he's throwing up.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:19 No.16049309
I'm impressed with this potential backstory. It could serve as a good scenario for The Legend of Ganon.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:20 No.16049313
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Voiced by him.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:20 No.16049326
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>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:20 No.16049336
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:21 No.16049345

>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:23 No.16049387
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:23 No.16049396
Maybe being incorporeal for several hundred years fucked up his throat?
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:23 No.16049397
If they still bother to check their old games' backstories, then the Triforce-less Links would still have the marker on the back of their hands, so that would give a bit of a hint in finding him, since he would probably still have that 'link'... sigh.. to the other two holders.

Now that I remember it, the Link that was in LoZ and Zelda II was said to be traveling from another country when he first entered Hyrule and saved Impa from Ganon's minions. Maybe at some point when the designated Link ancestor left Hyrule for whatever reason, he gave up the Triforce of Courage, which explains why it was sealed away in the Great Palace for some indeterminate amount of time.

Then again, Nintendo doesn't really put any real thought in the older Zelda games' place in the time line, so they probably won't revisit this period.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:24 No.16049405
I don't think Gannon is really a TORTURED PAST kind of villain. Or a GOOD INTENTIONS villain.

In every game, he's completely and absolutely arrogant when he goes up against Link. He takes cockiness to a new level. It's not even that he's sure he's going to win - it's that HE DOESN'T CARE.

That's the secret to Gannon. He knows he'll always come back. He knows that he can't be defeated, not permanently.

Ever wonder what Gannon thinks when Link delivers the final blow?

"There's always next time. There's ALWAYS a next time."
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:24 No.16049418
now all I can hear
My manwich!
in the voice of Samurai Jack
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:24 No.16049420
oh god, what had i done?!

as for a legend of gannon...
the main issue i have with it is that i can't comprehend an endgame.
good conquers evil is much easier to be done as a story rather than evil over good.
would the game just be legend of zelda dungeon running, but with gannon instead?
and at the end, do you beat link, and take the full triforce and wish for an evil world?
that doesn't seem like a finished story.
A great way to give him more character depth, but not a complete game
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:25 No.16049434
I think it's funny how everyone says he's evil.
But think about it...
Think through all the zelda games...
Has he done anything other than kidnapping zelda, and stealing the triforce (for his RACE's SURVIVAL I might add) that could be seen as evil, and not just Batshit crazy?
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:25 No.16049454
um, Osmosis Jones was Chris Rock, dude.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:26 No.16049468

The end of the game should be achieving the Dark World (Meaning whichever *Ganon ruled the world* part of LttP or OoT, or whatever), thus leaving you feeling victorious, even though you know that you're going to end up killed at the end anyway.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:26 No.16049470
the TV show
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:26 No.16049471

His Wiki makes him sound so fucking badass.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:26 No.16049474
No Link kills you in the end, thats how it always is
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:27 No.16049487

there was a TV show?
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:27 No.16049492
WW Ganon realized the whole cycle of Zelda and Link being reincarnated and thus tried to remove Zelda from the equation. Her magic is what can (usually) seal him away; Link often has to have help to finish the job.

The only reason he didn't kill Link is because he needed him to obtain the triforce pieces and open up Hyrule.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:28 No.16049524
destroying the castletown of hyrule, and claiming it as his own is kinda evil.
imprisoning all the gorons and freezing the zoras is also evil.

having your castle floating over a pit of lava is batshit insane
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:28 No.16049526
The end of The Legend of Ganon should be what would have happened if he beat Link at the end of OoT. Don't even show HOW he did it, just show what would happen in the event he did.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:28 No.16049533
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:29 No.16049549
SPOILER: nintendo doesn't care about their customers and will never make this, the next zelda game will be about a boy named link who finds out he's related to some ancient hero and goes off to fight ganon
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:30 No.16049562
"Alternate Ending" thing like in that SW Episode III game where Anakin has a chance to kill Obiwan and not get his limbs cut off.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:30 No.16049567
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who had a problem with this.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:30 No.16049574
He turned Hyrule into a shitty wasteland.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:30 No.16049583

I think it's funny how the triforce pieces ended up.

Zelda, for being the holder of the Triforce fo Wisdom, usually fails to prevent her country from being invaded all the time, as well as being usually useless to Link's adventure's until he needs the light arrows, which usually he finds in a dungeon, then Zelda steals as though she's actually being helpful.

Link, for being so courageous, has to crawl through upwards of 15 dungeons, slowly gathering an arsenal of weapons that eventually could lead ot Ganon's weakness. He never confronts Ganon until he has Ganon's two weaknesses (Light Arrows and Master Sword).

Ganon, for his powerful image, is more cunning than anyone else in hyrule. He sneaks into Hyrule in OoT, then subverts the king and his court, and eventually takes over the kingdom. He also cleverly traps the goron and the zora by finding and taming whatever fiendish monster happens to be immune to their natural weapons.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:30 No.16049591
how about a game where link is gannon's son.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:31 No.16049599
But did he ever KILL any of the castle town's inhabitants? Same with Zoras? you can see all of the castle town inhabitants in the village right down the path, and I'm not sure about the zoras, but every one has a bad day sometimes, y'know?
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:32 No.16049618
They said that their next main-line Zelda game after TP/spinoffs (PH, Crossbow, Minish Cap, etc.) would be a radical departure from the storyline and gameplay of all previous Zelda games.

But then again, Miyamoto was probably talking out of his ass.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:33 No.16049645
well, surely those redead came from some villagers
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:33 No.16049662

Well, didn't he once say he wanted to make a GRIM AND DARK FUTURE Zelda where Link goes around gunning down enemies?

Just to note, that would be fucking awesome.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:34 No.16049666
Well everyone does still think Miyamoto-san is the head of Nintendo. He's not anymore, he holds no pull except being the spokesperson and maybe a 'i don't like that thing at that spot' kinda thing every so often.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:34 No.16049670

It will be called Legend of Link, and you get to play as Zelda.

You venture out to collect three emblems, put them in the temple of time, recieve a Light Sword, go thorugh 7 other dungeons to free the imprisoned "Sorceresses" who will make a rainbow bridge to Ganon's castle, where you will enter, and then get captured, and saved by Link.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:35 No.16049704
No, CDi already did this shit.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:36 No.16049710
Legend of Zelda: Wii Fit edition.
Now you have to manually run back and forth through the game's many varied dungeons, which consist mostly of waggling mini-games.

Final battle is a virtual punching match with pig Ganon.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:36 No.16049714
As much as I'd love The Legend of Ganon, I really want the next Zelda to feature the great deluge of Hyrule. I want to see the chaos that ensued. I want to sail again, dammit. But what I really a Zelda to end all Zeldas. A game so staggering in proportion, it will not be surpassed for a decade. Much like OoT, actually.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:36 No.16049716
The Legend of Zelda: Triforce creation

Wield the triforce (wii controller) to position castles, forests, mountains and oceans into your world. Do you create the perfect world of light, or the perfect world of darkness?
Design complex dungeons with hidden switches and treasures.
Share on Nintendo Wi-Fi connection for your friends and strangers to play within your own hyrule.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:37 No.16049735
I just got one question;

Since when did brown people have red hair?
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:37 No.16049745
In OOT he invaded hyrule castle town with redeads and assumed everyone would be eaten by them(or whatever it is that redeads do after they finish their headchomping routine), but redeads, being slow and clumsy, were evaded by the townsfolk who only needed to walk outside the town where it wasn't night 24/7 because ganons night-field didn't extend that far.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:37 No.16049747
he's green
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:38 No.16049767
He killed the King and a Knight.

He did fix that Night Skeleton problem that was infesting Hyrule field.

That would be neat. Being trained to take over the world, etc., but as you venture about to gain strength and impress him, you find out more about Ganon, until after one last adventure, you confront him just before he begins his assault on Hyrule.

In WW, she creates the Light Arrows; Link only lends her the bow. Her real purpose is to be the Sage of Time, and thus control the imprisonment of Ganon or other evils.

We don't know everything that Sheik was up to.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:38 No.16049772
yeah all you need to do is get the gear from each dungeon before you go to the next, except for those ones where you need to talk to zelda/sheik first
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:39 No.16049773
You know what, Anon? Miyamoto has already proved himself many times over. I actually think...I actually think this could work if he was in charge. I know it sounds fucking insane on paper, but Miyamoto knows his franchise like no other. I imagine he could truly pull this off.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:39 No.16049781
There's no winning with you, so I'll change my tactic.
What I want to point out the most is that Ganondorf from OoT seems 'crueler' than the later/other incarnations. Fat Ganondorf seems more cunning. I just can't accept that they are the one in the same, even though everyone argues they are because OoT was just a 'split' in the timeline.
No, I I need further proof they are the same.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:40 No.16049798
A clumsy dungeon template would kill this.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:40 No.16049801
since races in zelda lore don't have real-world equivalents because zelda isn't elder scrolls
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:41 No.16049810
Yeah, I always thought the triforce of wisdom sucked donkey balls.

Triforce of power? Self-explanatory. Ganondorf's stupidly powerful, and turns into ganon when he invokes the triforce's power.

Triforce of courage? Not as evidently useful as the triforce of power, but it certainly has its pros. Its manifestation could be seen as the items Link collected during his quest, since traversing the dungeons undoubtedly requires courage.

The triforce of wisdom, on the other hand? The hell did that EVER do for Zelda?
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:41 No.16049819
So Gannondorf- Wisdom, Link- Power, Zelda- Courage?
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:43 No.16049866
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Hey guys, what about me. I was gannon's only alter-ego that succeeded in claiming the full triforce!
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:43 No.16049867
>elder scrolls

Run into any lizardmen lately, faget?
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:43 No.16049870
Nothing, thats why she is always captured.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:43 No.16049873
WW is a hundred years or so after TP, he probably changed sometime between then
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:44 No.16049896
beast races aside, things like redguards are pretty obvious in what their real-word equivalent is.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:45 No.16049921
You mean niggers?
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:45 No.16049930
you're fucking dead go away
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:45 No.16049937
He looks like hes from the middle east...OH SHI
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:45 No.16049939
Starring the reincarnation of LttP Link's Uncle, who must stop Ganon from and help the King obtain the Triforce and finally stop Ganon from ruling Hyrule, for now and forever.

I lol'd.

That was an April Fool's joke. A rather funny troll at that.

CDi also did a game where Link stops Ganon.

That sounds awesome, actually. But it would have to be overhead/2D. Like Four Swords with custom dungeon creation.

I'd be interested in a Ganondorf Spore where you create the minions/dungeon bosses from various parts with different weaknesses, until you find a combination that is complex enough to beat Link.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:46 No.16049943
aren't you a bright one
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:46 No.16049957
Zelda's pretty wise for a woman
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:48 No.16050011
Here's a fun activity for you!

First, be raised in an incredibly harsh desert environment by ruthless women who grew up in the same.

Next, try to take over hyrule, and fail at the hands of some punk.

Now (AND THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART) get sealed away for some hundreds of years, or something ridiculous like that.

See if you can come out the other side a sane, let alone unchanged, man.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:48 No.16050013
Go ahead and say it.

>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:50 No.16050037
WW takes place in the other timeline.

I would say that it grants her the ability to see the cyclical nature of her and Link's being, but in WW, Tetra doesn't seem very changed after awakening it.

All I can say is that it allows her to generate Light magic and also allows her to imprison things in another realm; it allows her to shift things between realms/dimensions and Space/Time.
Also, Transmogrification.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:50 No.16050053
I lol'd for some reason.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:50 No.16050058
>other timeline

Wait, what the fuck?
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:51 No.16050067
So, am I the only one that thinks two timelines are not necessary to explain anything?
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:53 No.16050117
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:53 No.16050119
I think you mean transformation
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:53 No.16050146
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>Tetra doesn't seem very changed after awakening it.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:53 No.16050148
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:54 No.16050164
I remember a friend of mine got the longshot from the Water Temple at which point he preceded to complete the Shadow and Spirit temples before going back to beat the Water Temple.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:54 No.16050173
>WW takes place in the other timeline.

dammit I meant to type OOT, I don't know how that came out as TP
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:55 No.16050180
Lessee what Ganon's Greatest Hits are...

Legend of Zelda: Generic villain whose only purpose was as an end boss. Story purposes has his minions ravaging the land looking for the Triforce of Wisdom.

Zelda II: Dead. Minions still thrashing Hyrule, this time looking for Link.

Ocarina of Time: Under the guise of Agahnim, he plotted to kill the descendants of the 7 sages (who somehow all happen to be human females) to fully break the seal placed on the Promised Land/Dark World. His imprisonment in the Promised Land mutated the once beautiful land into the twisted mirror of Hyrule it now is.

Ocarina of Time: Killed the King, destroyed/mutated Hyrule Castle, froze the Zora, planned to have the Gorons killed, minions invaded Kokiri Forest. Played a mean piano.

Oracle of Ages/Seasons: Suffered from still being dead like in Zelda II. Botched resurrection turned him into giant mindless boar demon, then promptly died again.

Wind Waker: Only time he was eloquent and had some depth. Never really did anything purely EVIL as he didn't kill any of the kidnapped girls. Ended up with a splitting headache.

Twilight Princess: Back to being generic evil. Used Zant as his pawn to free himself from the Twilight Realm. Minions caused untold havoc and death in Hyrule thanks to the Twilight creatures.

Haven't played Phantom Hourglass, Four Swords Adventures and never finished Minish Cap, so dunno if he's in them or not.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:56 No.16050203
Shit, first Ocarina of Time should be Link to the Past, of course.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:56 No.16050205
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:56 No.16050211

Ganondorf was raised by tough women. Since males were so uncommon, he had nothing but dresses to wear when he was still young. However, as the only male, he frequently found himself the target of advances by the stronger, older gerudo women, knocking him down with a grin and reaching underneath his embarassing dress to fondle the almost crying Ganondorf's small but still throbbing memb-

>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:56 No.16050214
He spends his time being sealed away conquering the places he's sealed into.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:57 No.16050228
Ocarina of Time: Under the guise of Agahnim...

>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)04:59 No.16050292
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For fuck's sake, there's no pre-established time line. They just throw references to old games and let you obsessive freaks make the connections all on your own.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:00 No.16050307
I still don't feel like they used Gant to his fullest potential. Though I guess they wanted Ganondorf to be in it so they didn't have to explain where he was maybe...
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:00 No.16050319
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:00 No.16050325
lovechild, faget
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:01 No.16050343
Zant was cool until he was unmasked and revealed a faggot
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:01 No.16050346
The timelines have existed since OoT. Nintendo has them locked away in a vault at HQ. Chances are the Zelda series will end within the next few games.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:01 No.16050347
the truth in this makes me rage
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:02 No.16050379
>locked away in a vault

Almost certain this is bullshit, but if not: proof?
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:03 No.16050409
I thought the word suited her ability to change into Sheik and change wooden arrows into something stronger, but they both work.

The only games in an official (canonical) timeline are OoT, MM, WW, TP and PH. Well, I guess Crossbow Training as well.

OoT splits off into two timelines:

1) Future - Ganondorf is imprisoned, and Link disappears from this timeline when Zelda sends him "back".
After many years, Ganondorf breaks free of his seal and attempts to take over Hyrule. With no Link in this timeline, the King of Hyrule uses the Triforce to flood the land.
This leads into Wind Waker.

2) Past - Link informs child Zelda of what Ganondorf is plotting instead of drawing the Master Sword and allowing him into the Sacred Realm. By doing this, he is prevented from taking over Hyrule and is executed/imprisoned by the Sages for his crimes and intentions.
Link then goes off to Termina, an alternate dimension, but it is presumed he made it back.

Ganon breaks out of this imprisonment through Zant. This leads into/is Twilight Princess.

Then we get Crossbow Training.

The above is confirmed by Nintendo as the main timeline(s).
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:03 No.16050410
If Zant was just crazy he would have been awesome.

It pissed me off that Ganondorf showed up though.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:04 No.16050432
Miyamoto or somebody else said they actually have a time line planned out a long while back, but for some reason they won't show it to anybody.
Most likely so they can smudge things around as they see fit until they finally run the series into the ground.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:04 No.16050435
knowing nintendo it could damn well be true and they hide them just to fuck with us
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:05 No.16050466
Anyone else wish TP was cel shaded? Not as in Wind Waker but in a way that makes it look like the game art
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:06 No.16050472
If you've ever read the manuals of Zelda games or the back of the boxes you'd know that they have a timeline planned out, since they usually explicitly state where each game goes in the timeline.
LttP has been officially stated as a prequel to Zelda 1 and 2, same with OoT, which is also a prequel. Nintendo said straight up that TP takes place 100 years after OoT. Majora's Mask and Windwaker's place in the timeline are also pretty damn obvious.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:06 No.16050491
There's still about a hundred year gap from OoT and TP.
>> Halo Bible Lol Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:06 No.16050493
They've been writing each of their main-line games since OoT with intentions of a timeline; anything before is simply just not connected, though they may connect some games as some of them could be made to fit in.

They probably have ideas but I'm certain they don't have a complete story fleshed out; that would be silly.

Yes, there is. Nintendo laid it out flat for you. It's only for a few of the games though.
Anything other than what I outlined above is lies, though I forgot to mention PH.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:09 No.16050556
Those aren't the only games in the timeline. Minish Cap, Lttp, and Zelda 1 and 2 from the NES are also part of it. Nintendo has already said that is the case.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:11 No.16050609
Apparently he comes back to Hyrule after Majora's Mask doing who knows what shit. Although saying this also leads into some bullshit theory that Collin took Links place as the new hero but failed because he wasn't chosen thus leading to Wind Waker.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:12 No.16050620
LttP is last in all timelines.
Though that point is moot, as Nintendo themselves admitted they were having some difficulty trying to create a timeline including their old games.

They said it was "hundreds".

I'd like a somewhat more "advanced" cel shading. As it stands, the direction they took was Ok for me as long as the next game is something different.

More or less accurate. They really don't have the games linked together but they'll find a way to work them all into their main timeline.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:13 No.16050661

It was surpassed 2 years later
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:14 No.16050672
what do you mean by "advanced"?
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:14 No.16050684
>Those aren't the only games in the timeline. Minish Cap, Lttp, and Zelda 1 and 2 from the NES are also part of it. Nintendo has already said that is the case.

I'm really just meaning what they have thought out and presented;
Those games can be worked in but Nintendo hasn't clearly came out and said "This goes here, this leads to this, and game B is the consequence of this even in game A" the same way that they did with OOT/TP/WW/etc.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:14 No.16050689
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>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:16 No.16050734
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F-Zero takes place in a future version of Hyrule and Ganondorf used a time machine to get raped and gave birth to Captain Falcon. That's why his moveset is always the same even though he has a sword that never uses!
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:17 No.16050754
Link to the Past cannot be last, as it's the prequel to LoZ and Zelda II.

I still hold Oracle of Ages/Seasons to be the last in the time line, since Ganon was still dead from being killed and severed from the Triforce in Legend of Zelda and Zelda II.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:17 No.16050762
A Link to the past doesn't fit in the timeline, OoT is the origin of the timeline
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:18 No.16050779
I think he meant a new game built from the ground up. MM was brilliant but it was done very quickly (though I don't want to say rushed) and most of its assets came from OoT.

I agree, though.

I should have said changed, a new art direction;
Maybe something more like JSRF or something.

I'd like it to be more than just a WW version of MM (in design terms).
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:21 No.16050868
If you notice closely in the games' lore there was a was a war of the races that pre dated Minish Cap. We've place as the Hero Time, and the Hero of the Wind, but we've yet to play the Hero of Men who is ended the war leading up to Minish Cap. That'd be an interesting next game.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:21 No.16050873
Well, where would you put LttP? The only way it would fit on the WW side of the timeline is after Phantom Hourglass.

And Minish Cap is the first in the timeline, followed by OoT, which is the first Ganon/Triforce story in the timeline.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:22 No.16050899
It is possible to do the Desert Temple/Temple of LOLTIMETRAVELIDONTREMEMBERTHENAMEDUH before doing the Shadow Temple

I did so because Shadow Temple sucks ass
just like Water Temple
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:23 No.16050928
Actually, it wouldn't even fit there. It has to be after Twilight Princess.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:24 No.16050962
Well LttP doesn't fit in it at all, it just influenced OoT which became the new beginning. Read something like that in Nintendo Power
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:24 No.16050964
Neat. But Nintendo only laid out the right timeline up to TP. Unless they flat out said that it leads into LttP, and I just haven't read that yet.

I as just basing that off of the whole "And the Master Sword sleeps...FOREVER!"
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:26 No.16051003
I think it has to do where you find the medallions in LttP.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:29 No.16051067
Accurate except there is no way to be certain about the two LoZ games put after Twilight Princess.

Also, since Ganon seems pretty dead in the Adult link timeline, maybe that's where all the games Ganon is dead in can go.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:29 No.16051082
I always knew you could do the Spirit temple without the Hover Boots (although I think there was one part where I always used them to jump to the hand in the large statue room and I don't know if that's necessary) but how do you get past the Haunted Wasteland without them? I always needed to use the Hover Boots to cross that quicksand river, apparently you can just hookshot across?
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:33 No.16051201
you can just roll. Link doesn't sink that fast.
>> zelda timelines is super srs Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:35 No.16051249
Link kills Ganon in LoZ, and his minions attempt to ressurect him in AoL. The Oracle games also involve the attempted ressurection of Ganon.

So, MM - TP - LttP - LA - LoZ - AoL - OoA/OoS works, right?
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:37 No.16051298
You can hookshot the crates that are on the other side.

The real fun is using levitation codes to find LOLWUT items in chests as a child.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:37 No.16051305
Connect Legend of Zelda+Zelda II to Link's Awakening, and then connect the Oracle games to to Zelda II and that's pretty much the timeline I theorized about a long while back.

Wind Waker screwed up my fan made timeline though, but having two separate ones due to OoT's time traveling tomfoolery fixes that.
The Four Swords games are enigmas to me, as I haven't played the mode in the GBA version and never played the GC one. Isn't Vaati the final boss in both?
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)05:37 No.16051308
Almost anything could work. Honestly there is really nothing that enables us to make connections between all the other games and the timeline that has been established.
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>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)06:05 No.16051952
I just wanna know if i can skip the water temple....
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)06:06 No.16051970
Can't skip it forever, so no use trying to avoid it.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)06:15 No.16052131
You're missing three of my favorites. I really like the Fire Temple and Shadow temple, though.

Huh, I guess I like them all.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)06:15 No.16052150
If you want, send me the save and I'll do the other temples for you.
>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)06:24 No.16052327

>> Anonymous 06/10/08(Tue)06:29 No.16052420
Ganondorf and Kefka: Friends forever