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>itt we discuss geology
>also, ponies
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:19 No.4058062
Can rock farms accuratly control what type of rock they produce?
And more importantly, are they limited to gemstones?

Is there ponies moving the tectonics plates? Or is there none?
>> Krakengineer !!5XY+x7grkpt 11/23/11(Wed)01:22 No.4058070
I think in at least one episode the ponies started panicking because they thought at earthquake was happening. This leads me to believe Equestria has plate tectonics and the ponies don't control them.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:23 No.4058076
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Is Geophysics all right? What are you most interested in? I am personally a fan of shale gas right now, since I am living in an area rich with it at the moment. They are drilling wells everywhere, it seems. Our neighborhood gets a nice yearly stipend from the well near-by.

Plus, the drilling rigs are sexy. For a while, I was debating majoring in either petroleum engineering or geophysics as my graduate degree, but I've been looking at nuclear physics more and more recently. Hyped stuff about LFTR set me on the track, on top of stuff about ITER and tokamaks in general. Also, it doesn't help I'm a Navy Nuke.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:25 No.4058081
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The rocks in rock farms appear spontaneously and randomly. They are not limited to gemstones, but that is what's valuable, so that's what the ponies mine.

There are no plate tectonics in Equestria, or at least there haven't been since Celestia and Luna took the throne. Maybe in Discord's world.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:25 No.4058082
That was a stampede of cattle, I believe.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:26 No.4058084
At least stick to real-world stuff, guys.
>> Lunatic !!h/HxpkvWDAR 11/23/11(Wed)01:30 No.4058095
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Fuck ponies, this thread is now about motherfucking Ilmenite. It's a naturally occurring semiconductor that you can mine for iron, oxygen, and titanium.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:30 No.4058096
if you want to talk about ponies, go to /b/.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:30 No.4058097
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I don't know a lot about geophysics as I haven't got that far, but I don't care too much for it. I rather enjoy the hard rock world and mining more. There is a big focus on minerals where I'm at right now, so it seems the best career choice.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:33 No.4058102
Anyone doing some Hydrogeology? I love me some karst topography and ground water. I got alot of HR geo pictures but /sci/ doesn't allowed pictures that large.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:33 No.4058103
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Hey, more power to you. I was influenced to look into both of those considered-majors because of relatives who are, respectively, a geophysicist and a petroleum engineer working for a big-name oil company. They travel a lot, do lots of stuff, and have a fair bit of moolah. I am certainly jelly.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:35 No.4058106
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>ponies ARE science

ilmenite's pretty cool, but I'm gonna stick with my trusted friend olivine.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:35 No.4058108
In my experience the vast majority of people that I know who watch my little pony friendship is magic simply do so for the attention it brings them. They love bringing it up in conversation, posting pictures of it everywhere, especially on their facebook and are generally over the top about it. I think they do this because watching a show for little girls is controversial and may spark a disagreement with people who don't watch it. Nonetheless I'm sure there are people who simply like the show because they like it cary on, but for the morons who watch it for the attention or to fit in please... please kill yourselfs. You are like religous people going form door to door telling you about god but in this case your telling them about ponies. You are as dumb and ignorant as a religous person.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:36 No.4058110
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Also, I hear mining is very lucrative, especially for salt these days.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:38 No.4058115
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Fuck that!
Labradorite in da house!
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:38 No.4058119
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:38 No.4058120
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suddenly fluorite kicks both they ass!
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:39 No.4058121
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Punning aside, I'm found of perthites and goethite
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:40 No.4058122
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>Oh god how did I get here I am not good with computer
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:40 No.4058124
fond even
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:40 No.4058125
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>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:41 No.4058126
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You all wish you could be as awesome as feldspar.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:42 No.4058127
I know exactly what you mean and agree wholeheartedly
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:43 No.4058130
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Dunno realgar might be better.

iridescence isn't all that uncommon. Bright red minerals? naw.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:43 No.4058131
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BAM! mohs 4 defining mineral fuckin up all yo shit.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:44 No.4058132
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Holy shit I submit. I was gonna post my smoky quartz but fuck... that's sexy!

Still gonna post it.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:44 No.4058137
I wish I was as awesome and as influential as felds.

Did no-one get my tectosilicate joke? You're not geology nerds!
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:45 No.4058138
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>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:47 No.4058142
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There is a lot of oil here too, but my university is focusing more on minerals. I meant no disrespect to oil petrology or anything.

I only got to see karst when I was in Costa Rica last year because there really isn't any up here. Besides, the water is frozen half the year anyways. You could upload your pics to megaupload or something, that would be sweet. There are never too many geology pictures.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:48 No.4058145
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How about that muscovite?
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:49 No.4058148
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both those fluorite specimens are huge (for euhedral crystals), and in harvard's mineralogical museum. there's some crazy specimens there.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:49 No.4058149
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fuck goethite. ive had enough of its shit this semester.

you have my attention
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:50 No.4058154
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Fuck your shit. Tungsten all the way.
Incredibly-high melting point
Makes fuck-yeah awesome allows (tungsten carbide? Yes please)
Radiation shielding
Even more!
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:50 No.4058157
I want to do Karst geology, but I don't really know what kind of work you do with a specialization in such things.

I'm at IU, so I'm surrounded by caves and sinkholes.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:51 No.4058159
Alloys, rather.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:52 No.4058162
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What's your sign?
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:53 No.4058164
forgot to add: and yet I've only seen like one office in our building that has cave related displays/research posters outside of it.

I guess we can have a crystallography thread too.

Want some hematite instead? What course are you taking? I'd assume you'd have other minerals to hate than goethite if it was mineralogy.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:54 No.4058168
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I'm jelly of your caves. I've got...glaciers. That's about as cool as it gets.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:55 No.4058170
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This thread is seriously making me reconsider what I want to do for graduate school. Of course, maybe I could do materials science of some type. Many fields can overlap.

Eh, fuck it. I'll burn that bridge when I get to it.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:55 No.4058172
Glaciers are pretty fucking cool. It'd be cool to do fieldwork in heavily glaciated terrain, I think. All the cobble fields and morraines and so on.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:57 No.4058177
Interestingly, the "ask the pie sisters" fanblog has a elaborate and remarkably reasonably-sounding and consistent explanation of what exactly happens on a rock farm.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:57 No.4058178
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Bitch, why are you complaining about glaciers? That shit is awesome. I'd love to study those bitches. Go to Greenland or Iceland or some shit? Fuck yes! Hell, maybe even Antarctica!
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:57 No.4058180
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It's from geochem. I'm taking mineralogy too, but it's mostly silicate in there. I actually like geochem, but some of the solubilty shit was a pain in the ass, ergo fuck goethite.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)01:57 No.4058181
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I live in San Antonio, Texas. So I pretty much live right over the Edward's Aquifer. Just starting my first year right now so I'm not too sure what I can do with the degree, all I know is that I fucking love the shit out of it, so I don't really care.

Does anyone have a really good book for Structural geology? Wanna get some reading in before I go to the class, don't like being unprepared.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:01 No.4058189
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Glaciers ARE cool. But after a while, your hands get cold and you'd rather be on a volcano in Hawaii watching lava flows.

God, I love geology. So many interesting things to study.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:04 No.4058196
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I bought Fossen's Structural Geology book to study as well, even though I won't take it until next fall. From what I've read about it and in it, it seems to be really good.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:05 No.4058197
Structural geology is supposed to be a bitch. It's a field course at my school, which is nice, but still.

Is there a good source on the internet for EH-PH and T-P, T-X diagrams? Whenever it comes time to do my homework, I end up having to dig all over the place to get the charts I need.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:05 No.4058198
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I don't know if ay of these are helpful, but some books I have on file:
Global Earth Physics: A Handbook of Physical Constraints
Mineral Physics and Crystallography
Rock Physics and Phase Relations
Dictionary of Geophysics, Astrophysics, and Astronomy
Field Geophysics
Image Estimation by Example - Geophysical Sounding
The Oil Shale Industry
Theory of the Earth
Chemistry of Precious Metals
Elements of Mineralogy
Outline of Mineralogy, Geology, and Mineralogical Analysis
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:08 No.4058203
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>What is this place, filled with so many wonders? Casting it's spell, that I am now under.

Proof that geology is God tier science and all others are shit tier humanities rejects.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:09 No.4058208
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I honestly wish I'd have studied a bit more geophysics. I feel saddened in my physics pursuits, and am back to square one of what I want to do in graduate school.

Materials Science is definitely looking cooler and cooler. Any input for fellow /sci/entists?

Oil and Gas Industry
Fluid Dynamics
Physical Oceanography
Plasma Physics
Nuclear Physics
and a few smaller ones.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:12 No.4058212
Well, my mineralogy professor likes to talk about how mat sci and mineralogy are both very related to crystallography and *shudder* symmetry.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:12 No.4058213
I'm a geologist. NOT A PONY.

I work on landfills, but I'm not a pro. In a year or so, i'll be eligible for LICENSURE. So that'll be cool.

But my boss won't paid for eeducation, so to get some real work, I'll need to go elsewhere.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:12 No.4058214
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>Is there a good source on the internet for EH-PH and T-P, T-X diagrams?
Not that I know of, I bookmarked a medley of different sites, but they're mostly professors uploads from different universities. And wikipedia. Or a book.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:14 No.4058217
WTF a geology thread in /sci/? When the hell does this ever happen?
Anyway, hello fellow geologists. :D
Personally, I prefer the mathematical side of geology, and modelling and such.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:16 No.4058225
They are, your professor is right. Crystallography and symmetry are the backbone of mineralolgy and anything related to it, especially at the molecular level.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:18 No.4058232
What are the top 3 hardest classes in geology?
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:18 No.4058233
Weird. It seems like geologists like their voluminous books and records, so it seems odd that there wouldn't be a booklet with papers and information on all the most common solid solution's and aqueous solution conditions.

I guess I need to take GeoChem asap so I can derive such things for myself.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:18 No.4058235
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Maybe I should just be an applied mathematician.
Or go into engineering physics.
Though, UWisc - Madison has an "Applied Mathematics and Engineering Physics" program. I would definitely look into that, since it is where I plan on attending. That, or UTexas
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:20 No.4058242
I didn't mean to imply that I was incredulous, just that those are things you might want to think about if you were planning on getting a graduate degree in material science.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:20 No.4058243
Protip: None of them are hard.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:21 No.4058245
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Though, fuck. That's an undergraduate program. I'm boned there.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:21 No.4058248
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>WTF a geology thread in /sci/? When the hell does this ever happen?
It happens when someone decides that /sci/ is filled with shit and starts a thread, i.e. me.
>Anyway, hello fellow geologists. :D
Personally, I prefer the mathematical side of geology, and modelling and such.
I could do with less math, but I do like all the diagrams and graphs. But I fucking LOVE good pictures.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:26 No.4058260
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>it seems odd that there wouldn't be a booklet with papers and information on all the most common solid solution's and aqueous solution conditions

More like copyright shit. It's like they don't want people to have knowledge.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:26 No.4058262
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Fancy mathematics is awesome.

Yeah, and I know what I want to do now. Or not. Whatvever. More geostuff and ponies!
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:30 No.4058271
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>I know what I want to do now.
Mathematician or geologist?
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:31 No.4058274
As an added bonus, I like to rock climb, too. So I can look at rocks athletically and aesthetically while I look at rocks scientifically. Boosh.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:36 No.4058290
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"Nuclear Engineering & Engineering Physics"
Fixes my problems, mostly. Other things can be academic hobbies.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:40 No.4058308
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>As an added bonus, I like to sit on my ass too. So I can look at rocks lazily and aesthetically while I look at rocks scientifically. Booyakasha.

Pic related, it's the inside of a volcano that I sandboarded down.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:46 No.4058329
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Physics is pretty cool, and fairly easy to understand. Engineering sounds fun, but I rather break things than build them.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:52 No.4058351
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You can always break stuff to see how it works, and put it back together or make it better. That's where engineering can come into play.
>> Lunatic !!h/HxpkvWDAR 11/23/11(Wed)02:56 No.4058366
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Folks, let's talk about flood basalts. What's a flood basalt? Well quite simply it's a huge fucking flood of lava.

Think 200,000 km^2 or larger flooded with molten lava.

Think the lava level from a mario game.

Flood basalts are fucking awesome
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)02:56 No.4058368
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Can you fix my refrigerator? /sarcasm
>> Lunatic !!h/HxpkvWDAR 11/23/11(Wed)03:01 No.4058381
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Sounds like somebody wants a job in the military industrial complex!

Also have you considered going into explosives/explosion/combustion research(which is more often than not in mechanical engineering)? You get plenty of opportunities to break things, on purpose!
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)03:08 No.4058392
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>Flood basalts are fucking awesome
truer words have never been spoken

So awesome in fact that even the moon has them.

I love mafic rocks, especially peridotite and basalt. There is just something that calls me when I see them.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)03:09 No.4058396
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Shit is so cash.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)03:09 No.4058398
>Lunar mare
>Picture of Luna
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)03:14 No.4058407
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>Sounds like somebody wants a job in the military industrial complex!
Uh, I don't think I'd fit in. Godlessness, ponies, distrust of authority, etc.

Also have you considered going into explosives/explosion/combustion research
At one point I did, but then I got drawn towards geology. Colorful minerals > explosions, but hey, you get to blow stuff up in mining too.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)03:22 No.4058419
>lunar mare
Shit son five star post.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)03:31 No.4058440
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Military industrial complex isn't all bad.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)03:43 No.4058470
Mining/geotechnical engineerbro reporting in. Just wanted to say that rocks and explosions are fucking awesome.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)03:45 No.4058471
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I know most of my geology from playing Dwarf Fortress and subsequently looking up rock types on the wiki.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)03:56 No.4058483
Why do so many people find it easy to blame the oil industry for earthquakes in unusual regions when they use the fracking method for extraction of fossil fuels? Is there any legitimacy to their claims?
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)04:01 No.4058493
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>Is there any legitimacy to their claims?
Fracking does cause some tremors, but nothing that would be life threatening. They blame them for the same reason anyone blames anyone else, it's easy and they're probably retarded.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)04:06 No.4058500
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Does anyone have a good mnemonic device for the plag series?
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)04:09 No.4058503

I was looking for a little more discussion than some name calling and a picture of a pony. What evidence supports this?
>> fossilbro ! 11/23/11(Wed)04:23 No.4058518
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Hay guise.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)04:32 No.4058524
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>"Earthquakes induced by human activity have been documented in a few locations...earthquakes were minor

>several studies demonstrate that hydraulic fracturing induces microearthquakes

>They blame them for the same reason anyone blames anyone else
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)04:34 No.4058526
what's in your limestone? looks interesting.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)04:34 No.4058527
It's long been known that when water seeps into minute cracks in the crust, it acts like a lubricant, sometimes triggering quakes in regions where there already is pressure bound in the astenosphere.

I can't say for sure, but fracturing the rocks to significant depth seems like a good way to increase the seepage of water and motility of the crust.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)04:45 No.4058545
They pump water or other fluids into the fractures at high pressures. I thought of it more as a pressure and stress thing, but lubrication makes more sense.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)04:55 No.4058559
As far as I know, fracking itself mostly causes a vertical shift instead of a horizontal one.

While this shift can certainly cause cracks and more in rigid structures, the question was of quakes.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)05:07 No.4058565

Just to note, I was speaking specifically of the recent large earthquakes in Oklahoma over the past 3 years, and especially this past month. There was a 5.6 magnitude earthquake which was very unusual for this area. Almost any time discussion of these recent events arise, blame often gets put on fracking for causing these earthquakes. They are in fact unusually shallow, about 4-5km in depth. However, they have all been located on an ancient fault line known as the Wilzetta fault. Which would lead to the assumption that earthquakes should occur on faults, but could fracking exacerbate earthquakes in an already active fault?
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)06:01 No.4058609
Maybe if conditions of rare types somehow lined up.
But, then you get into chaos theory there.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)06:06 No.4058614

Fracking might have brought the quake sooner than it would have naturally happened, but then, it might also have lessened the magnitude by releasing pressure before it reached the point where it would have naturally been released and caused some significant damage.

But as said, it's all speculation without the necessary data.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)06:12 No.4058616
geology is a science?
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)06:17 No.4058617
Why fracking? It's 'fraccing', surely. At least it used to be. "Fracking" looks ugly
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)06:20 No.4058621
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Stop cursing! This is a family-friendly web-site!
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)06:27 No.4058624
Frack you!!
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The official term is hydrofracturing, but the common term is fracking. Also "frac job" or "frack job".
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)06:39 No.4058632
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>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)06:42 No.4058634
More seriously, here in Eastern Australia, virtually the whole of which sits on a cumulative 100ft of high-grade, low-sulphur Permian coal, there is growing tension between would-be exploiters of coalbed methane and the traditional farming/grazing community. Artesian water is a limited resource, and to get the (low-permeability) coal to produce, it is fracced and de-watered to increase its permeability. The farmers don't see why they should be restricted in their right to use this water while mining companies can pump out and discard thousands of megalitres of it without paying a red cent. Much of the local media has taken the farmers' side, and uses the spelling "fracking". I thought it was just for the ugliness, but I now see that the spelling is internationally accepted. Language evolution, I guess.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)06:47 No.4058638
As a non-native english speaker, 'fraccing' looks uglier than 'fracking'. The latter seems to obey language conventions better.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)06:51 No.4058641
Indeed. I seem to remember the name 'Halliburton' and serried ranks of high-pressure pumps, pushing down sand proppant and viscosity modifiers and who-knows-what-else, some of which turns up in the groundwater.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)06:53 No.4058643
Hi guys - my plan is to study geology in a British university and then move to Canada to get a job - how likely am I to succeed, geobros?
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)07:02 No.4058658
English does not have too many language conventions, or more properly has a mish-mash inherited from ancient Greek, Latin and Germanic sources. Unlike, say, French with its Academie Francaise, English has been happy to adopt any word from anywhere to get that exact nuance of meaning. For example, 'nuance'.

I think something more like the commonly used diminutive 'piccies' for 'pictures' is appropriate here. But then, I am an engineer, not an English professor.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)07:03 No.4058659
English does not have too many language conventions, or to put it more properly has a mish-mash inherited from ancient Greek, Latin and Germanic sources. Unlike, say, French with its Academie Francaise, English has been happy to adopt any word from anywhere to get that exact nuance of meaning. For example, 'nuance'.

I think something more like the commonly used diminutive 'piccies' for 'pictures' is appropriate here. But then, I am an engineer, not an English professor.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)07:13 No.4058671
>ladies and gentlemen - autism.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)07:20 No.4058680
It doesn't fuccing matter.
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)10:47 No.4059107
bumping for truth
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)11:06 No.4059136
screw you guys
>> Anonymous 11/23/11(Wed)11:15 No.4059147
That's a really complex question. Decent, especially as time goes on here. In the US, there are supposed to be 10,000 unfilled geological science positions in ten years (in other words, we're not even training enough geologists to meet the replacement rate). Don't know how worked that number is, as I saw it in a AGS or AGI flyer.

One of my engineering buddies was doing work on the sheer strength of bones. He would break bones for his research.

I'd be more concerned about the burning water than a few little shakes.
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